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#1 Lord Nanfoodle

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:03 AM

You seen it so many times... New players asking, "How do I use X's special," or "What does X's ultimate do," or "How effective is Twilight," or "Which is worst pony?" Well, normal logic would say to find a wiki, but upon looking at it, it feels, soulless, because wikis also seem to be more about the numbers, objective facts, and bare bones. I (and others that want to chime in) want to share more subjective views on how to play as each hero.First, I insist you check the wiki DragonLight and RedM00n so painstakingly made. Wikis were made to help you. They're your friends... Now, I'll bet you ignored that, so now I shall begin!!

The Basics (The universal facts everyone should know, and probably are on the wiki, but am covering first in case you're too lazy to open a simple link, ya jammy dodgers...)

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  • At any time when your charge reaches 100 or higher, you may hit G (your taunt key) to use your Hero's SPECIAL MOVE. This depletes 100 charges and puts your power in Cooldown mode for a period of roughly 30 seconds.
  • When you max out your charge at 200, you gain the option to hit R (your reload key) to use your Hero's ULTIMATE MOVE. This will use all of your charge and send you into Cooldown as well.
  • A Hero's Max HP is determined by the number of players on a server. While I haven't pinned down the exact formula (Namely since I've never focused ENOUGH on it before, but now I guess I should), know that the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM max health a hero will ever have is 1125 HP. Remember this fact most of all. Health management is crucial. As I told Toki while on koth_ponyville_b4 when I was playing as Rarity, "A lady knows when to run away."
Now that we have these universal facts out of the way, here is by far the greatest terror any hero can face:

Airblast Pyro

What?! Thought I was going to say Natascha/Brass Beat Heavy or L3 Sentry Nest? Well, that's cute, BUT IT'S WRONG!! Universally for all heroes, an airblast pyro can ruin any pony's murderous rampage in 10 seconds flat. The aggravation of trying to melee when you get sent a third of the way across small maps can be annoying at times, but tenacity pays off on lone pyros or pyros without other classes to back them up. Eventually they'll have to give up the airblast gambit. However, if you see a couple of Beggar Soldiers and/or a good Natascha/Beast Heavy coming to join in, time to get out of there. Airblast pyros also love to use the maps hazards. As a regular player, this would mean instant death, but you're the hero, these 'nuisances' shouldn't concern you... Wrong. Pits hurt. As do trains. Saw blades too. I also discovered the bomb elevator in Hightower falling on you is not pleasant either. All these things are things I've seen heroes, or have myself, been blown into, or under, and if you are near death, it's game over for you. However, unless you totally derp, you should be able to evade most of those hazards on most maps that contain such hazards (And RD can evade most of them anyways). The real terror is in knowing you're in a tiny room (like the shacks next to bomb's start positions in Hightower, or the intel rooms in 2Fort), and that pyro has some good friends. Then you're really under pressure, because that's when airblast pyros love to go W+M2 on you and stuff you in a corner, and all you can do (most of the time) is scream and shout. But enough about Davie Bowie, we're here to talk about ponies!!

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:28 AM

i do say this is quite useful, should it be another pinned topic?

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:49 AM

This really needs to be pinned. O.o

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 11:24 AM

Small adandum to rd here, I think you also get mini critz during the special as well

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 11:58 AM

Wooo! I got mentioned in the guide! 0 30

Anyway, I just thought I would point some stuff out.

First of all, Rainbow Dash is capable of jumping infinitely, giving her the power of flight basically. Every jump though, saps 5 HP away though, so be aware if you're under heavy fire, but this can also help you avoid pits of Pyros decide to try and airblast you. Also, activating Rainbow Dash's Special will grant her temporary crits.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 04:11 PM

I think you forgot that heavy spam wins the game..

Okay, maybe one pyro to keep them from running.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 04:26 PM

Needs twilight and pinkie, until this shouldnt be pinned :grump:
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 04:36 PM

A lovely guide here and, in regards to Twi, I do have two things:

1. Obviously, you can counter Medics and Spies (aside from Fluttershy and Rarity) with both your normal shots and charged shots, do this to cut back on pushes or when you find a spy in the area.
2. You can unleash charge shots without worrying about cool down, use this to disable enemy sentry guns, teles and despensers to help your team out.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 05:11 PM

well here is how you use Twilight :3

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#10 Lord Nanfoodle

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 09:47 PM

Ah, excellent axelbourne!! I knew I'd miss some things on Twilight and Pinkie, and you really helped me fill in some things on Twilight I'd miss given my anti-soldier (and anti-soldier based character) stance. I'll add your stuff to the top for easy access, as well as proofread it.

Going to amend the entries here based on the data handed in, and try to give data on Pinkie based on my experiences now.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 01:43 AM

If you would like me too, I could toss the info from this thread into the wiki for those who go to it.

It could use a bit of community based input in terms of do's, don'ts, strategies and so on....
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Posted 07 October 2012 - 02:03 AM

Pretty close descriptions :) Good to see people helping.

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#13 Lord Nanfoodle

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 04:12 AM

If you would like me too, I could toss the info from this thread into the wiki for those who go to it.

It could use a bit of community based input in terms of do's, don'ts, strategies and so on....

Excellent. Just glad to help. I just felt like doing this after hearing so many new people pop in and wonder "what does what," and I looked at the wiki when I was new and feeling like the wiki was incomplete at the time myself, and really learning what I have up till now by just passively listening and watching folks (A time when autism works in my favor).

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 05:42 AM

Ah very will done. I like how this adds to what the wiki says too, this should be pinned maybe or just slap it in the wiki.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 12:26 AM

Yeah, this will probably help me a lot when to use heroes in certain maps.

I don't really have a favorite hero, so, yeah.
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#16 Lord Nanfoodle

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 01:47 PM

I figure I'll further enhance this guide here with videos of how the heroes play, starting with the one I'm beginning to become synonymous with, Rarity:



It isn't 100% quality work, and I bet there are some spy flubs that if Tavy or Albert saw this, they would choke me, but 26 dead souls (22 of which are counted as backstabs), and winning the round, especially versus Paragon, a known hero killer, as well as Toki, RedM00N, Charibasa, and Tornado, good players in their own right, seemed like it was good enough to post here for tutorial purposes. Later on I'll see about making videos on the other heroes, probably Fluttershy or Rainbow Dash next, but of course you'll never see a Twilight video from me, since she's a soldier-based hero, and I don't play soldier for any reason, ever (That also means by default no Trixie either from me, since I'd have to play Twili to get her).

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:00 AM

After seeing the video, I think there are a few things you could add to the Rarity guide:
  • Circle-strafing is key to STAB ALL THE THINGS... successfully. Remember that the backstab detection is the player's entire backside, all 180 degrees. Adding that with Rarity's speed, sidestabs can help take down those tougher yet slower targets.
  • As with any Spy, Rarity excels in ambushing. Rarity can help her team when two pushes collide by taking out dangerous targets and then escaping safely to her team's side of the push when her health is low.
  • Her speed and small size makes it easier for her to do more advanced Spy techniques like stair-stabbing.
  • Even if Rarity cannot get too many targets for one reason or another, she can cause paranoia to the enemy team. A distracted team is a team easier to take out.
I hope these help your Rarity guide, since Rarity is one of your favorites.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 07:49 AM

Well, I finally made a guide for Rainbow Dash, and also have an advanced video for Rarity I've decided to replace my original tutorial with, and make the definitive example of rice ball play.

EDIT: Paragon convinced me to do a third render of the Rarity video, and there it is!!

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Edited by Lord Nanfoodle, 22 November 2012 - 09:26 AM.

"Never trust anyone offering to 'do you a solid.' They may just want to take a dump on your table."

- Me

 

"Love and Tolerance" isn't really what bronies like us believe. It was just meant for pissing off trolls.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 02:00 AM

If I might add a few Rarity tips:
Use your cloak. A LOT. Rarity has the Saharan Spy decloak noise reduction. In addition, I believe she also gets more cloak restocked on pick-up of weapons/ammo crates. Use this to your advantage when Engineers try to camp a point or intel. After you take them out, it's likely they will return, assuming you've moved on to other targets. Level three sentries are often the toughest defense, ESPECIALLY if they decide to build more than one. Memorize the ammo spawn points on the map, and circle the chokepoints, picking up the ammo boxes to stay invisible so you can keep an eye on the area without enemies keeping an eye on you. Uncloak behind anyone who leaves the area and backstab them, and immediately recloak. The Saharan Spy buff prevents them from hearing you, and you can recharge your cloak through their dropped weapons.

Also, something for Rainbow Dash:
The more you jump, the more gravity will pull you down. If you're still practicing with RD, land every now and then to prevent gravity from pulling you down instantaneously, leaving you disoriented and knocking off a chunk of your health. It's already been covered that you should practice with your sandman in the air, but you can also use the gravity build-up to your advantage by getting a quick drop on your opponent. Hitting them from above grants you additional stun time, due to the fact that additional height counts as additional distance. Still, Natascha heavies could always stand to be stunned a little longer, but if you can't stun them longer, get to them quicker by flying around constantly to fall faster. Maybe shaving those few seconds off your descent doesn't actually help that much... but it sure feels like it does to me. I'd advise testing this out before adding strategic quick-drops to the guide. And maybe try landing on top of the targets instead of next to them, so you could skip the melees and just goomba stomp them. I have yet to try quick-drop goomba stomping because the idea only just now occurred to me, but it seems like a good idea in theory.

Even though I'm not sure quick-drops help and I'm unsure if doing so purposefully should be added to the list, the fact that it occurs at all should probably still be posted. I was very confused the first few times I played RD only to instantly drop out of the sky. I thought it was a glitch.

And some tips for non-hero players:
We all know Natascha helps take down heroes, but there are other weapons too. Pyro airblast and Scout's FaN are prime examples of impeding the hero and increasing your survivability. But don't just increase your own survivability! Find someone who's well-suited for taking on objectives, and keep them alive! I don't recommend using the FaN to take down an engie nest, but the sticky launcher isn't as easy to thwart a hero's rush. But sticking together and assisting each other works similarly to heavy-medic in pubs:one acts as the offensive power, the other keeps them alive. Heavy-medic doesn't work to the same degree on targets with 1000+ health, so think outside the box!


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Posted 30 November 2012 - 07:21 AM

Well, I finally made a guide for Rainbow Dash, and also have an advanced video for Rarity I've decided to replace my original tutorial with, and make the definitive example of rice ball play.

EDIT: Paragon convinced me to do a third render of the Rarity video, and there it is!!

Well, anyways, here they are:




The insane amount of twitching in the video... it's absurd!

It's all part of the Rice Ball gameplay, maybe... I'll give the twitchy thing a shot the next time I get to playing with Rarity...

And, what "I suck at this game said" is true, I noticed when spectating rarity, on the bottom right corner, shows the weapons and it's stats: Reduced Decloak Noise... Intriguing :D Needs testing for me to believe though... lemme try decloaking right behind him...

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